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Old 08-05-2009, 04:42 PM
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The cold year, and this particularly cold summer, are a result of reduced solar activity. You can follow the sun at:

http://spaceweather.com/

Note the sunspot count which is currently zero. Sunspots are magnetic storms on the sun which stir the sun like a spoon in a pot of boiling soup. When the sun is spotless there are less emissions which means it is sending us less heat.

And it is interesting to look at sunspot activity over past years:

http://spaceweather.com/glossary/sunspotnumber.html

And 2009 is on track to set another record breaking year for spotless activity:

http://spaceweather.com/glossary/spo...8augthua3 uu0

Last year was a record setter as well (about 260 spotless days) the second quietest year in the last century (see the above chart). But 2009 has already had 167 spotless days with about 150 days left in the year.

But it takes time for the cooling and warming trends of the sun, to be experienced on earth, because the earth stores heat and stores cold. After the sun has cooled, we are still warming due to stored heat. And after the sun warms, it takes time for the earth to respond accordingly. That's why summer's longest day is at the end of June (the most sun we get in the norther hemisphere) but the hottest temperatures don't occur until August. The same is true in the winter. The shortest day is in December but the coldest days are in February.

So not only is this summer cooler because of an inactive sun, next year is likely to be just as cold if not even colder.

We'll see what the global warming hucksters do with that.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:20 AM
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http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...julystats.html
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:01 AM
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I'm going out on a limb here. I think we are on track to a record setting year of sun spotless days and I think we are repeating a cycle from the beginning of the 20th century.

Here are 3 record setting years in the early 1900's:

1911 - 200 days
1912 - 255 days
1913 - 310 days

Here are another 3 years to compare:

2007 - 160 days
2008 - 260 days
2009 - 183 (and counting)

So far 2009 has had 79% spotless days and if that continues, we are on track for about 288 spotless days.

I wondered about the temperatures for 1914 and did a little searching:

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/02/ny...eezy-damp.html

And note that 1914 FOLLOWED the three year record lull in sun spots.

I think as cool as it has been this year, 2010 will eclipse it.

Once again the thing that drives earth's temperatures is the sun, NOT man's activity.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:12 PM
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From this article:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...larminimum.htm

"Since the Space Age began in the 1950s, solar activity has been generally high," notes Hathaway. "Five of the ten most intense solar cycles on record have occurred in the last 50 years. We're just not used to this kind of deep calm."

Deep calm was fairly common a hundred years ago. The solar minima of 1901 and 1913, for instance, were even longer than the one we're experiencing now. To match those minima in terms of depth and longevity, the current minimum will have to last at least another year.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:22 PM
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This graph is interesting:
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:29 PM
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From this article, from 2004:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3869753.stm

This is why things were quite warm but why things have been cooling off.

Man made global warming is BS, and Cap and Trade is even bigger BS.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:24 PM
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This is so funny - from space weather:
NEW SUNSPOT: A new sunspot is emerging about 15o north of the sun's equator: map. Pete Lawrence sends this picture from his backyard observatory in Selsey, UK:

"It is small, but a welcome sight, especially after the current long run of no surface activity," he says.

Indeed, if this active region consolidates into a true dark-cored sunspot, it will break a string of nearly 52 spotless days, one of the longest quiet spells of the current solar minimum. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.
I highlighted in bold the amusing part. This is the AGENDA of the man made global warming hucksters.

Even THEY are admitting that we are having a VERY cool summer BECAUSE of the significant downturn in solar activity. This flies directly in the face of their "we're all going to be toast" arguments which they use to support disastrous concepts such as "Cap and Trade" tax. Their argument, "Well if it wasn't for global warming, it would be even colder."

OK, well if COLDER is better, why is the sunspot a "welcome site"?

The truth is that there have been periods in history, when solar activity did not go up after a period of inactivity - it stayed low. And it stayed low for very long periods of time. And what we ended up with was a mini-ice age. And if you think things aren't great when it gets warmer than normal, then you haven't seen ANYTHING until you see what happens when it gets cooler.

HINT: You can't grow food if it doesn't stay warm enough long enough.

Folks, global warming is NOT about science, it is about socialism, and the government telling you what you can and cannot do. And a lot of supposed scientists are beating that drum for political NOT scientific reasons.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:53 PM
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Well, the sunspot appeared (or didn't - the darn thing was so tiny) and lasted for about one whole day. Gone again. Back to a quiet sun.

Here is an article that says we may not see an uptick in sunspots at all:

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1...n_the_decline/

Notice how the article talks about the Maunder minimum:
"If sunspots do go away, it wouldn't be the first time. In the 17th century, the sun plunged into a 70-year period of spotlessness known as the Maunder Minimum that still baffles scientists. The sunspot drought began in 1645 and lasted until 1715; during that time, some of the best astronomers in history (e.g., Cassini) monitored the sun and failed to count more than a few dozen sunspots per year, compared to the usual thousands."
And while the article does not talk about Global Warming, here is a story on the mini-ice age:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Don't you find it coincidental that the Maunder minimum seems to line up with the beginning of the mini-ice age?

And this article talks about the fact that during the same recent time period that we have seen sunspot activity reducing, temperatures have been dropping:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200...ON02/482528797

I am convinced this is no coincidence. The rising earth temperatures that made Al Gore famous, were not caused by man's use of energy, they were caused by a highly active sun. And now that the sun has quieted down, it's getting cooler and proving that Al Gore is full of - dare I say it - hot air.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:54 PM
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And now Jen47 will post to bury the scroll.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:14 PM
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sure, it started off cold, but for the last few weeks its been seriously hot! i think that the earth has its own way of balancing things out.
 


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